Todd kindly DON'T close tickets as "resolved" lol - Support

Resolved Mygsdorg
5 years, 9 months ago

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I open this now, else I would have added to my other post:
I cannot click anything other than “not resolved”, sorry. I am writing back here because: Do you really mean right now RM users must manually edit each and every individual post, page, and custom post type and tick the six boxes for each if it isn’t meant for indexing?

Remember, I showed that currently RM needlessly/wrongly sets the index meta tag (which is default anyway).

I can’t believe you meant we must visit thousands of pages to set those tickmarks??
There MUST be a quicker/easier way? If not at front-end I don’t mind to do it at backend/in database.
But you need to please say how we can bulk-remove pages from being indexed that aren’t meant to be indexed!

PS for others/newbies who read this: It is a common misunderstanding to want to have all pages indexed: Read Brian Dean, Neil Patel, and others: ONLY ever index pages that you seek to market to NEW visitors.
Every other page, post, etc should be set to No-index: menu pages, homepage stuff, contact stuff, membership pages, pages you only link to per email autoresponder etc etc.
Else you water down your rankings with stuff you don’t need indexed!
Said it now. 😉

Hence why every (other?) SEO plugin worth its value allows to bulk-exclude post id’s from indexing. Or rather: specifically to SET “Index”, but RM can’t do this because it default sets ALL pages to robot meta index…

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Todd
5 years, 9 months ago

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Hey,

I am extremely sorry about closing your ticket. TBH, I thought you were only sharing your feedback and a feature request.

Now, about your query – although it makes sense to noindex some of your posts, it doesn’t make any sense to noindex most of them.

On a usual website with 1000 blog posts, 10-20 of those posts might be worth noindexing. Not the other way around.

That is probably why other popular SEO plugins do not offer bulk noindex option either.

With that said, Rank Math does have an option to noindex a particular type of taxonomy.

Sorry for the ignorance, but could please let us know how something like this works in any other plugin so we can check and improve ours based on that.

Thank you.

Mygsdorg
5 years, 9 months ago

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Todd, isn’t ignorant, happy to help: AIOSEO, Yoast, SEO Framework, even SEOpress.

“On a usual website with 1000 blog posts, 10-20 of those posts might be worth noindexing. Not the other way around.” 🙂
I leave you with your belief, no point to argue.

“With that said, Rank Math does have an option to noindex a particular type of taxonomy.”
Could you share a link to kb clearly showing that process you’re thinking of?
Would help EVERYONE 😉

Todd
5 years, 9 months ago

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Hello,

You can noindex taxonomies from WordPress Dashboard > Rank Math > Titles & Meta > YOUR TAXONOMY

Hope that helps.

Mygsdorg
5 years, 8 months ago

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Thank you. Yes it may help SOME for sure, in my case however I cannot seem to understand how “taxonomies” could allow to set those 6 tickboxes shown earlier?

Again, could you pl share a way (backend is fine, database query for example) how we can “tick” those six under “Additional” for hundreds of pages WITHOUT having to open and edit each one individually?

Again, your brilliant “bulk edit” option unfortunately does NOT allow these tickmarks on the front end.

Todd
5 years, 8 months ago

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Hi,

The taxonomies option can be used to differentiate between posts that you want to index and the ones you don’t want to index.

For example, you could have a new Taxonomy called “Unimportant” and it will only contain posts you don’t want to have indexed.

Yes, this is a workaround for something we should have built into the plugin. In fact, we had in the initial betas but had to remove because it was getting confusing for users.

I will share this feedback with my team and we will see about bringing this option back where the posts will follow global noindex etc. settings and then you can change the settings for the handful of posts you want or don’t want in the index.

I would appreciate your patience in this matter.

Mygsdorg
5 years, 8 months ago

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Thanks so much Todd.
“For example, you could have a new Taxonomy called “Unimportant” and it will only contain posts you don’t want to have indexed.”
This isn’t really feasible, an extra taxonomy for that kind of thing.

Again, would you be so kind please and share with us users WHERE in the database we can set those 6 tickmarks?

I say “in the database” because our past communication suggests that this is the quickest way (at least until Rankmath offers a frontend way).

FYI: I am thinking to use an “Update” command to bulk set those tickmarks.
Likely will be six commands because likely you use 6 custom fields for that.

Todd
5 years, 8 months ago

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Hello,

We are working on improving this.

Will appreciate your patience in this matter.

Mygsdorg
5 years, 8 months ago

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Oh Todd, this back and forth costs TIME 🙁

No one asked you “improve on it”.

What I did ask (five times now): WHERE in the database can

WE

set those 6 tickmarks (value=1) of the “Additional” tab?

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Note that thanks to this loong back and forth the installation of Rankmath now STILL costs us valuable traffic and hundreds of discrepancies in google console!

pages set to Index by RM <> pages excluded from sitemap (for good reason)

So I trust we can ultimately resolve this shortcoming today?
PLEASE. (fifth Please and Thank you)

😉

Todd
5 years, 8 months ago

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Hello,

You can use get_posts function to get all the posts and update the robots data in bulk. rank_math_robots is the key where robots data is stored.

As I mentioned earlier, the other way would be to change the settings in the Global meta (and assuming you never changed the settings on an individual post basis), then all those posts will pick the Global meta

Once done, then you can manually change the settings of those select few posts to whatever different setting you want.

So, all your posts will become noindex, etc. and you can manually choose to index, etc. a select few just the way you want.

If this isn’t what you want, we are sorry but we have no other option to help you with this.

Mygsdorg
5 years, 8 months ago

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Thanks. Well you would have. Easily. Simply answering the user 😉
>> which was: WHERE/HOW IN THE DATABASE can we change those 6 tickbox settings

No idea why for 7 messages you don’t answer this simple question, but you will have your reasons not to answer what users ask, for sure.

As I mentioned earlier your “global settings” suggestion helps only those little sites OR where the settings needs to be the same for most posts/pages.

While here, with thousands of pages, and so with hundreds that need Either be indexed OR not, “global settings” isn’t helpful, you will admit.

I am giving up now here, and try to find the ANSWER myself. It’s a shame, after two weeks waiting, with Rankmath caused google indexing errors…

Or maybe I email Bhanu, he may know the answer and share it.

Mygsdorg
5 years, 8 months ago

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Besides: The entire database is void of “rank_math_robots”!
Now I am getting really angry. WHAT A TIME WASTE!
I’d be ashamed.
But that’s me.

Todd
5 years, 8 months ago

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Hello,

There is no DB query to do that.

Sorry.

Mygsdorg
5 years, 8 months ago

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Of course there is, you answered: “use “rank_math_robots””

And though that’s NOT in the db, SOMETHING saves the six tickboxes in the database SOMEWHERE, else you wouldn’t even offer the six tickboxes. 😉

There may be a guru here for this young plugin who knows, let’s see if he jumps in?

PS: Don’t get this wrong, I totally appreciate all your effort here. THANK YOU.
It’s just that it hasn’t yielded anything for … is it 3 weeks now?
That’s what is “disturbing”. Hope you understand.

Todd
5 years, 8 months ago

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Hello,

It is not that there is no DB query to update that info for the post.

But, you need the post ID of EVERY post you want to either index or No Index.

You have to go in and get the post ID of each post, put it in the query, run it, and then come back. It is much, much easier to just edit the post – don’t you think? Which is why I think this type of query is not what you are looking for and there is no query that would automate this process.

Hope that helps.

Mygsdorg
5 years, 8 months ago

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Todd: We needed the id of EVERY post/page/customposttype already just to enter them in your field “exlude from sitemap”, you remember now? That was a hassle yes but it’s sunk cost now. We have all ids.

Also, no we wouldn’t need to run hundreds of queries in sql: If only your team finally were to say HOW/WHERE these 6 tickmarks get saved then we’d likely run ONE smart sql query to change it for ALL ids in a flash. Like, 3 weeks ago, so fast. 😉

So: “It is much, much easier to just edit the post” doh, no. Have you ever tried editing the RM SEO settings for hundreds of pages via wp editor?? Takes like forever just to LOAD them. Regardless of server. No sensible person works these things in the EDITOR.

“Which is why I think this type of query…”
JUST the place WHERE/HOW the 6 tickmarks get saved?
They absolutely DO get saved in the db, ask Bhanu maybe?

(I haven’t emailed yet as it wouldn’t look good on you)

Again: Instead of posting yet ANOTHER reply here, why didn’t you simply answer the easy question instead?

I don’t get it!
Nor would you if you were at the user end…

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